Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Facebook Case Files

Here are a few replies I’ve made to things people post on Facebook. In most cases, they don’t respond to what I say. I can only guess as to why. In other cases, a short discussion is had. And in some other cases, I don’t post what I’ve typed and instead am presenting my replies here for the first time.

In any case, I like to deal in reality.

Cases in point…

This was an online article about the Supreme Court upholding Obamacare. The comments section was connected to Facebook, so it showed up in my feed.

Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Law
The Supreme Court has upheld the individual insurance requirement at the heart of President Barack Obama's health care overhaul.

commented on New Jersey 101.5.
It was passed under a false guise. The mandate aspect failed so they passed it as a tax. This sets new precedent for the government to force you to purchase anything. Why have we given up on freedom?
It's the biggest tax in world history! You will now be forced to buy insurance and if you don't the IRS can fine you. Can't pay the fine or taxes? what happens then? Jail? What is to stop them from forcing other things on us? People don't get it....if you do not have health insurance you will be taxed $5,000...if you don't pay the tax the government will put a lien on you until it's paid. That's the government telling you what to spend your money on whether you can afford it or not....and don't think for one minute the government would force the insurance carriers to lower their rates....that won't happen. This is just another step towards fascism...We need Obama out.

Bill Mancuso
Oh, Mary. This is the problem with getting your information from a biased source with an agenda. What you're repeating here is completely false.

When the Senate Finance Committee ORIGINALLY drafted the bill, the fine attached to the individual mandate was always regarded as a tax, that's why it was in the tax committee. The mandate didn't fail and then they switched it to a tax to put one over on us. That's right-wing fear-mongering conspiratorial BS. And it's actually a $100 tax penalty – not a fear-mongered $5,000 – and here is what the bill actually says about failure to pay that penalty-

        In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay penalty imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.

That means NOTHING happens if you don't pay the $100 fine. You do not have to pay it and you do not go to jail. And if you fear some sort of civil suit trickery, there's this-

The Secretary shall not--
        (i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section, or
        (ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure

That means the IRS CANNOT put any lien on you whatsoever.

The fact is there is NO PENALTY for not purchasing health insurance.

And why would you think that the government should force the insurance companies to lower their rates - the government can never force a private corporation to lower their prices - the government does not own private corporations. It's as silly as believing Obama controls the price of privately owned gas companies. The only real way to combat the high insurance prices would be to have the 'public option,' but it doesn't have that. Or have Medicare for all.

The government is not forcing you to spend money on anything - affordable or not. This sets no precedents for the government to force you to buy anything. You lose no freedom. Not only is it NOT the biggest tax in world history, it's not any tax at all.

Seriously, did Gomer write this?

The fact of the matter is the 'individual mandate' is a Republican policy idea, developed by the Heritage Foundation in 1993 as an alternate proposal to Clinton's health care proposal. Liberals ALWAYS hated forcing someone to purchase insurance - which gives more power to corporations - which is a Conservative's wet dream - which is the OPPOSITE of the complete takeover of healthcare by the government - which is why this Liberal health care individual mandate has absolutely NO teeth whatsoever. They designed it that way on purpose.

I hope these facts ease your nerves a bit.

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A friend of a friend posted this:

Bill Mancuso
All those green power companies funded by the Energy Policy Act of 2005, passed by a Republican-controlled Congress and signed by Bush that Obama continued have failed? That sucks.

Staples, the company Bain borrowed money from the government to bail out at taxpayer risk but to no risk of their own which now pays their employees 51% LESS than the average nationwide salaries? Awesome!

Bain Capital's profits from borrowing taxpayers' money from the government at no risk to themselves has a return rate of 113% by offshoring American jobs? Or, first taking workers' tax payments then taking their jobs away nets Bain a 113% profit? Awesome!


Massachusetts unemployment rates during Romney’s tenure:

This selective misinformation bores me.

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Some extra information on this if you're interested:

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By the end of Reagan's first term, he added 225,000 government jobs.

So far, Republicans have prevented Obama from letting the government hire, their austerity measures resulting in the loss of over 600,000 government jobs.

Republicans are only fiscally responsible when Democrats are in charge. But for them, everything goes on the American Express Centurion card.

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"Bill, why didn't you elaborate?"

Because they don't care. 

But I know you do!

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Oh. I forgot one more thing.

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