In response to my previous post about Occupy Wall Street, I
feel like giving you a taste of the uneducated lemming mentality. My buddy
Richard posted this. His original post and the entire thread that followed
was so unmitigatingly ignorant of
reality (with a few exceptions toward the end), I couldn’t bring myself to post on it. If I did, there would only have
been a string of curse words following “You.” I thought it best to abstain.
You’ll be able to distinguish between the ones blindly
repeating the right-wing narrative and the ones at least using common sense. I'll be adding my little obnoxious zingers throughout the thread because it's fun.
If you get mad at the stupidity, remember – do not
break your computer. It is not your computer’s fault.
Stick around until the end. I will post my response to this
ignorance in the form of a few excellent videos.
The names have been changed to protect the innocent and the
guilty – and all the shady characters in between.
Enjoy…
To the "Occupy Wall Street" clowns... Maybe the
reason there is such a gap between you and them, is that they are there
actually working while you are sitting around in the street all day whining and
showing how little you understand basic economics... Just sayin...
Philip
Richard
LOL. The issue is that people don't want to work for
anything. (no, it’s not) They want it
handed to them. (no, they don’t)
The protestors in NY were out calling for bigger government (no, they
weren’t), to take from the people making
the money and giving it to the people that didn't. (wrong again) That isn't America, although it's what America seems
to be becoming. (no, it’s not)
The real irony is that half of Wall Street is in bed with
the current Administration... LOL (true, but not ironic, since the movement
is not a liberal one)
I often wonder just how far Richard can actually shove
his head up his ass.
Russell
Larry
I have heard like 3 coherent people from the various
reports, they make good points, but the rest is kind of embarrassing as a
liberal to watch.
Richard
Yeah, I am sure there are valid points here and there, but
for the most part, they are idiots who don't have a clue, (wrong) which is why they are not successful (wrong) and obviously resent those that are. (and
wrong again)
Lynn
The biggest injury problem the EMTs have been reporting is
blisters from too much bongo playing. That pretty much says it all...
What kind of injuries does she expect from a peaceful,
non-violent protest? Well, except for the incidents of unprovoked police
brutality.
Richard
LOL. Yeah, there is a reason why the hippies all went away.
The funny thing is that probably half of the original hippies, now work on Wall
St. :-)
Fran
This is what happens when you coddle children and give them
a trophy for participation--when the corporate world doesn't give them what
they want they whine about it. (uh, no.)
Remember: it’s not your computer’s fault…
Richard
Couldn't agree more Fran. Not to say that there are not
scumbags on Wall Street. There are. But simply being more successful than most
doesn't make you a scumbag. You can be dirt poor and be a scumbag too.
But we keep bringing kids up, telling them that intentions
matter more than results, that winning is not important, that even if you lose
you are a "winner" and should have equal status and all that...
And then they go into the real world, which wants results,
not intentions and feelings. They want you to perform, and are willing to
reward you for it, but they don't hand out paychecks or trophies to losers. And
a lot of people cannot deal with that.
They see someone with so much money, and they don't have a
clue how to get it themselves, so they automatically assume that the other
person must have gotten it in some sinister way, or that they don't deserve it.
We live in a country where people make lots of money and
are "successful" for doing everything from being on Jackass, to
starting a landscaping company, to being a Wall Street tycoon. Life has its ups
and downs for everyone, but if you cannot find some niche where you are
"successful" in your own right, then YOU are doing something wrong.
And whining about it and asking Obama for a check isn't
gonna fix the fact that you can't get your shit together. Asking him to punish
the people that are successful, because you are too busy whining to become
successful yourself, would be funny if it wasn't so tragically wide-spread.
Richard has a talent for droning on and on and never actually saying anything that is true. He would make a great politician.
I contemplated removing this next statement because it is
a bit weird, but I changed my mind. I decided it’s fun, not weird. I did not
correct the spelling…
Larry
Theres a scene in the Big Lebowski where Jeffery LeBowski is
in bed with Maude, and hes recounting his accomplishments in kind of a
meaningless contextless way. I imagine many years from now, a bearded homeless
man will find a bankers wallet in the street. He will recount his
acomplishments at the "Occupation of Walstreet" over a doobie in the bed
of a hooker.
A little bit of common sense… mostly...
Walter
Richard, there are lots of folks who want to work, lost
their jobs, are looking for work, myself included.... I don't want a hand
out.... I could get government assistance but choose not to as I don't want a
hand out..... I have applied and applied and don't even get a response! I have
friends that lost their jobs and haven't been able to even get an interview....
(“I don't want a hand out..... I have applied and
applied” – Which is it?)
Calling these people lazy or spoiled is insulting!
So the 700 airline pilots want a handout?
I am sorry it is not so simple... now with Obama signing 3 new nafta agreements things are only gonna get worse.... I would like to see corporations out of our government , no I didn't vote for Obama!
People are fed up with corporations not being held
accountable for their actions then having to bail them out when they mess up...
people are sick of the on-going wars.... people are sick of jobs going over
seas.... people are sick of the dems and republicans.... there is a lot going on
and fox news or cnn is ignoring it as is the president...those "lazy kids" at
least have the balls to stand up and say enough unlike so many of my peers who
are content to continue getting the shaft and are thankful they at least have a
job like my wife... oh and now her employer wants to take away her health care
so they can increase their bottom line!!
…tempered with blind ignorance…
Richard
Everyone who is out of work is not lazy.
Everyone who is out of work is not lazy.
The people marching and protesting and complaining about
Wall Street, are.
The reason that they don't have jobs, isn't because of some
Wall Street Executive. I mean, perhaps one or two worked for that company and
were laid off, I don't know, but on average, if you are down on your luck,
going out and whining about someone else who isn't, doesn't get you a job any
faster, does it?
I mean seriously, what do these protesters actually want?
Has any of them actually come forth with a logical or realistic plan, or are
they still whining about how it isn't fair that some people are still rich
while they are poor?
Walter
The tea party doesn't have one clear goal either....as I
said the majority like 99.9 % of people are getting sick of the way things are
being run....and you do make very valid points (no, he didn’t)...I am just trying to point out the bigger picture
at hand.
Oh, how simple everything is to Richard…
Richard
But Walter, part of the reason these corporations started going under was BECAUSE of government. The housing and lending markets, which formed a huge portion of the investment market, started down the path to ruin because the government mandated sub-prime lending. When they create Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and things, the other banks had to sorta follow suit in order to stay competitive.
But Walter, part of the reason these corporations started going under was BECAUSE of government. The housing and lending markets, which formed a huge portion of the investment market, started down the path to ruin because the government mandated sub-prime lending. When they create Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and things, the other banks had to sorta follow suit in order to stay competitive.
The government getting involved in banking, telling us that
everyone had a right to home ownership even if they couldn't afford it, forcing
things on businesses, created the collapse that impacted almost every segment
of the economy, both here and abroad.
Walter
For me, I have been "cold calling" local
businesses trying to sell them on web sites or upgrades to their sites... I am
happy to say today’s meeting went great and I got some work so I can live for
the next month.
The government is beyond corrupt... this is a fact... but I didn't
by a house cuz I can't afford to and what the banks and the government did is
disgusting.
Walter seems to be living in reality.
Fran
Richard- the housing market crash was because EVERYONE was greedy. Gov't, banks and PEOPLE. It's much more complex.
Walter- I was in your position in 2000. I went back for
more education/certification. Not school, but certification. Join membership
groups for free webinars and events.
I also took a huge paycut.... I'm on my third industry
now... re-invent yourself. I know, easier said then done, but people do it. I
have- 6 times now. Still in the same industry, just learning new things to be
more valuable.
The American Dream… get downsized in order to ensure
greater corporate profit, pay for more schooling or certifying to come back and
start all over again at a lower salary to do the same job, just to get
downsized again and start all over for even less pay – six times. Why would
anyone protest that?
Walter
Fran....believe me I have reinvented myself plenty! Learning
new technologies as we speak BUT that has nothing to do with the fact that I am
sick of the spending on endless wars... no money for old people... no jobs for
young people and corporations getting away without paying taxes (G.E. comes to
mind)… while getting government contracts to build more weapons while people
like you and me need to reinvent ourselves to take a huge pay cut yet be
valuable... doesn't make to much sense.
I lived with a woman for years and her job was executive
compensation... I got to witness first hand what these people will do for their
bonuses and believe me if they need to fire a bunch of people so they can get a
bigger bonus they will and do... they only care about the $$$$ and most don't
do shit... as I have said I had the fortune or misfortune of watching this all
day everyday for years and it made me sick... she eventually couldn't take it
and quit
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Like all Republicans, Richard believes everything the
government does correctly, was done by Republicans. Everything incorrectly,
Democrats. Rich people got that way only because they are smart and worked
their way up – and are conservatives. Poor people are that way only because
they are lazy and want everything for free – and are liberals.
Doing research while debating him, I often find large hunks
of what he says just copied and pasted verbatim from a right-wing blog or news website.
There’s a thinkin’ man fer ya.
I have many more debates to post that include Richard. I
can’t wait for you to read them.
But for now, here’s my response to Richard’s ignorance:
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