Wow! Is it time for the next installment in this series on
guns already?
Yes.
I get a bit dickish in this discussion, but I’m getting
fucking sick of these numb-nuts just parroting the same bullshit over and over
for their own self-serving, uninformed bias.
And that whole, “And Obama is the
dummiest poopy-head dummy ever in the world ever, too!” was really goddamned
childish. But again, when you know fuck-all about the real world, you just
parrot bullshit.
Enjoy...
Mary
If you support gun control because it might "save one
childs life" but support abortions which kill 3,700 kids a day, you just
pulled an Obama.
Thurston
I love you... Lol
Mary
LOL!!!
The Brain Frees
If trying to prevent nuts, convicted felons and terrorists
from purchasing guns (of which, 247 actually on the terrorist watch list
purchased guns in 2010 - thanks, NRA!) and still allow law-abiding citizens to
buy all the guns they want as protected by the Constitution, and supporting a
woman's choice to exercise her Constitutionally protected right to receive an
abortion (of which, science says a cluster of cells that cannot support
themselves prior to 24 weeks are not a "child" - no matter how much
religious fear-mongering goes into that suggestion, this was settled in 1973),
then yeah, I'll "pull an Obama" all day long.
You know what? Never mind. Fuck it. Let's let crazy people,
terrorists and felons get all the guns they want. What could be the problem?
And screw the Constitution. Let's just pick the parts of it we agree with.
Women should have no right to their own bodies. A bunch of 70-year-old male
politicians who aren't doctors know much better than you and your doctor about
your own bodies. So, just submit.
Ponce
Gun control will make absolutely no difference. [Ignoring all the cases where it does.] You
could outlaw all guns and people would still kill with guns. Nobody uses
cocaine because its illegal, right? Same thing.... if somebody wants a gun
they'll get one, legal or not. Maybe those morons in Washington should start
worrying about things like out of control spending and unemployment instead of
printing money and sticking their noses where they don't belong.
PS. Obama is a moron and the weakest leader we have ever had. [There it is. This is how you know you’re dealing with
an intellectual.]
The Brain Frees
Right. So, by your "logic," we should have NO laws
because they don't stop 100% of ALL crimes. No laws against murdering, raping,
speeding, stealing or arson. No laws against driving the wrong way down a road.
No laws against breaking and entering, incest, against molesting children,
against animal abuse or driving through a red light.
[I forgot to mention we shouldn’t
have police or locks on our doors because criminals don’t care about those,
either.]
But we SHOULD have laws against abortion, because that will
stop 100% of abortion? Or, will it (as it for a fucking fact did and does) just
drive women seeking their Constitutionally protected right to their health care
into the back-alley offices of butchers like that Kermit Gosnell fucker? Yeah, that's logical.
And we SHOULD have laws against illegal immigrants, too,
right? Because that stops 100% of them from getting here, right? Right?
And we SHOULD definitely have laws forcing welfare
recipients to take drug tests because that will stop 100% of them from taking
drugs, yeah? Yeah, fuck the Fourth Amendment - that doesn't have anything to do
with your guns. (In Florida, the taxpayers paid $118,140 in drug testing costs
- but hey, they prevented $72,360 from going to welfare recipients at a net
loss of $45,780! There's Republican math in action.)
Is there any other factless, self-serving hypocrisy you'd
like me to point out?
It is a statistically proven fact that gun control laws
absolutely have and do prevent deaths from guns (no, not ALL), no matter how
much you claim they do not. The funny thing about facts is, they are still true
whether you believe them or not.
And again, since I know you weren't listening because your
tin-foil hat was blocking out all real information and just repeating the
corporate profit-protecting NRA mantra that "liberal gun-grabbers are
coming to grab your guns" - no one is fucking coming to take your guns.
Unless you are a fucking felon, a fucking terrorist or fucking insane - YOU CAN
KEEP YOUR FUCKING GUNS. Is there a reason you believe you would fail a simple
background check? What are you guilty of? Because only people guilty of
something should be afraid of a background check. Or are you just FOR
terrorists getting guns?
In 2010, 247 terrorists actually on the terrorist watch list
bought guns because of weak & unenforced laws due directly to NRA lobbying.
Why would you be against controlling a terrorist's ability to purchase guns?
Oh, because a background check wouldn't stop 100% of terrorists from buying
guns, so we should let be as easy as fucking possible. That's so logical, why
didn't I think of it?
As for the reason the NRA wants terrorists, felons &
nuts to get guns - profits go way up for gun manufacturers and then their
funding to the NRA goes up as well. Why would they give a flying shit if 74% of
their own membership (and 90% of America) is for background checks? Dues are
only about 20% of their funding. 80% comes from gun manufacturers.
PS - Aside from that being a kindergarten-level outburst,
you are correct. The version of Obama that the right-wingers living on Bullshit
Mountain created is indeed a moron and the weakest leader we've ever had. [Except for when he's an unstoppable calculating genius tyrannical dictator.] Not
the Obama that exists in the real world, though.
And if "guns don't kill people, people kill
people" - then what do soldiers need guns for? Yeah, deconstructing the
pea-brained logic of bumper-sticker slogans is fun for the whole family.
Ponce
The Brain Frees, Although I don't like the idea of abortion,
I do support the right to chose what you want to do with your body without
government intervention. I also know that the government isn't coming to get my
guns but they want to limit what type of guns I can and can't purchase in the
future...hell I couldn't even buy a semi auto shotgun for skeet shooting in NY
state after the politicians stuck their noses too deep where they don't belong.
I think they actually had to change that part of the law because of public
uproar. I don't want my liberties, rights and freedom taken away or limited by
the government. I even think they should make some drugs legal and tax
them....that should make you happy since you're obviously on something. [Ha! So clever, it hurts.] BTW....I'm not a
Republican or Democrat [Nobody blindly repeating
right-wing anti-government bullshit ever is. Funny how that works.]
...just an American who doesn't want his rights messed with!!! You're obviously
so far on the left and so "one way" that there's absolutely no sense
even trying to have a discussion with you. Intelligent people can have a
discussion and disagree without such anger and without having to use the F word
to get their point across. I won't be coming back to this tread to read your
garbage so don't bother with a rebuttal. Personally, if it was my post I'd ban
you.....
The Brain Frees
And there's a true Constitution-lover: 'If this was my post,
I'd ban you from your First Amendment right.' Why are you so afraid of what I
say that you need to prevent me from saying it? Historically, who does that? [I know comments on Facebook have nothing to do with free
speech, but these fucktards don’t understand the difference. When the Duck
Blowjob Dynasty bigot is kicked off his show for being hateful to gay people,
they start screaming about First Amendment rights, of which it has nothing to
do. When butter-chomping racist Paula Dean says she wants little nigger
servants at an old-fashioned country wedding and her show gets cancelled, they
start screaming about First Amendment rights, of which it has nothing to do. I
was wondering if he would notice.]
And also someone who is confident in their convictions: 'I'm
going to have the last word, so don't bother saying anything after me.' It must
be scary to encounter someone who doesn't blindly confirm your biased,
ill-informed opinions.
And nice job, Ponce, on ignoring all the facts I presented
and just accusing me of being on drugs. Because that's an intelligent argument:
'I'm right and you're on drugs.' When I accused you of wearing a tin-foil hat,
I wasn't just randomly making shit up in an attempt to discredit you. It was
based on the fact that you seem impervious to real information from the real
world and instead only blindly parroted debunked right-wing talking points that
only exist on Bullshit Mountain within the impenetrable Republican bubble. [Not that he’s a Republican or anything.]
And nothing I said was "so far on the left." What
I said was all supported by easily researchable facts, not partisan hackery. If
you think facts are only for those on the left, well... But the fact that you
just parroted debunked right-wing talking points makes you... ?
Fuck.
You apparently don't mind the limitations on all the rest of
the Amendments. Just your guns need to be left alone.
Fear sells.
That's why the shill for the gun lobby, Wayne LaPierre has
been saying for years that liberals are coming to take your guns. Every time a
Democrat becomes President, the rhetoric gets ratcheted up and guns sales
increase. Do you know that the NRA and gun manufacturers aren't happy when
there's a Republican in the White House? Why? Gun sales plummet because they've
convinced you so well that liberals are dictatorial gun-grabbers. And
Republicans are freedom-loving, liberty-upholding, patriotic, 'Mericans, so you
have nothing to fear. (The next time a woman is forced by a Republican state
legislation to be raped by an ultrasound wand against her doctor's expert
medical advice, ask her about freedom-loving Republicans.)
'Oh, shit! The Brady Bill that that socialist Reagan heavily
supported, limited my magazine capacity! Now, I have to reload more often and
I'm lazy. How will I protect myself from the tyrannical government [or skeets] that the NRA has convinced me will
inevitably attack? I want my FREEDOM back!'
'Oh, fuckaduck! In 10 years, the background checks in the
Brady Bill prevented 1.8 million convicted felons, fugitives from the law,
convicted drug abusers, mental incompetents, illegal aliens, the dishonorably
discharged, people who renounced US citizenship, violent spouse-abusers, and
those under indictment - out of the 107 million checked. That's under a 2% loss
of freedom – for criminals. I'm not on any of those lists because I'm a
law-abiding citizen, so I would easily pass, but I want my LIBERTY back!'
The only thing about the semi-auto shotgun law that was
changed due to "public uproar" was that since they don't make 7-round
magazines, you can have a 10-round magazine but are only allowed to load 7
rounds. They should have just upped it to 10 rounds - how are you going to
enforce 7 in a 10-round mag? And as far as I know, the only semi-auto shotguns
or rifles that are banned are ones with one of these features: a pistol grip, a
bayonet lug, a telescoping or folding stock, a flash suppressor, a threaded
barrel, a grenade launcher, a muzzle brake, a muzzle compensator, a thumbhole
stock and a foregrip. Some of those are kind of arbitrary, but which of those
purchase-preventing features takes away your freedom? The bayonet lug? Does the
Constitution protect bayonet lugs? Do you need a bayonet for skeet-stabbing?
And if you purchased a shotgun with any of those features before 1/15/13, it's
grandfathered in, you just have to register it. 'Oh, no! Registration! The
first step to all-out government tyranny!' *
*Government Tyranny™ does not count for anything else you
must register, such as your birth, car, boat, motorcycle, business, marriage,
dog, charity organization, non-profit, vote.
Sorry if my naughty words upset you. I'm just tired of
debunked right-wing rhetoric. (I was going to say 'right-wing bullshit' but I'm
trying to keep my scary garbage to a minimum.)
***** ***** *****
Hey, remember Gomer? He was around for a while. Then he
unfriended me on Facebook. My scary fact-talk was just too scary for him. Not satisfied with still being able
to encounter me on a mutual friend’s post, he then blocked me. You know what
happens if you hold your mouse over someone’s “Like” counter and someone that
blocked you is the one who “liked” that post? This:
(Actually, this “discussion” happened a while ago. Facebook
has updated their system since then. Now, if it shows a ‘Like’ from someone who
blocked you and you hold your mouse over it, the ‘Like’ just disappears. But
that “No one currently likes this” sure was funny.)
jive at the age of 2 william stokkebroe
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